The Ontario Ride to Conquer Cancer

slaker · Member

200M

tstrawbridge · Veteran Member

Check this out.

http://to10.conquercancer.ca/site/PageServer?pagename=to10_aboutevent

SMOKE14 · Senior Member

Taylor,

Wish it was a little more specific, little dizzy trying to follow the streets.

Dave

OFlaherty · Senior Member

Yeah, guy doing it next year and I were saying that. I had to take Gravol after viewing it. Really.

tstrawbridge · Veteran Member

It's a teaser. It's not supposed to be the route. Not the final version.

SilverFox · Senior Member

I've followed the dizzying flyovers for the and copied on to Google maps.

M200

K200

The K200 is very similar to last year (if not identical).

I know these routes aren't final, but I was curious to see where the M200 would go relative to the K200.

Curiously, the routes through Mississauga are not identical, diverging at Cawthra and Queensway and then rejoining briefly on Creditview. I would expect a lot more commonality in the urban areas.

tstrawbridge · Veteran Member

200 mile route...

813m of climbing on day 1.

246m of climbing on day 2.

That's not bad.

OFlaherty · Senior Member

Thanks for that googlemap and the hill information everyone. this is great.

Phillh · Veteran Member

@SilverFox I'm also surprised the routes don't share more in common. This seems like adding 200M options has dramatically increased their logistical overhead, not a good thing when you want as much of the $ raised to go to the cause and not to logistics of running the event. I'm sure the ride will be amazing but would have made much more sense to me to add the extra 60km closer to Hamilton so that both rest stops and law enforcement wouldn't need to be duplicated.

At least it will be a completely new ride, will see some areas that haven't seen in previous years.

I was also kind of hoping that they might work in Rattle Snake Point near Milton somehow but seems 200M route steers well clear.

See you all out there!

Phill

Angel One · Member

Awesome work, SilverFox. It's my third time around and I'm really looking forward to the extra challenge. I hadn't even considered road bikes until the 2008 event. Can't log less than 1250 k a year now. Hope to see you guys out on the 200m. I'll be easy to spot. The one out of breath, trying to figure out how he ended up in this predicament to begin with. www.conquercancer.ca/goto/johnnyangelone if you want to know more.

Cheers
Johnny

OFlaherty · Senior Member

I went on first ride today, finally. Did 45 km on trail. windy, windy. Had on the 2009 Jersey i got from this site general store? I'm gasping, pedaling. Guy comes up beside me on a racing bike and asks if I'm riding 2010. yeah, I tell him about it. He shakes his head. "I hope I make it. I quit smoking last year when my friend did the 2009 ride, bought this bike, and don't know if I'm ready."
I laughed. "If I can do it on this mountain bike, suffering, you can. And congrats on quitting smoking."
Funny how you run into people just wearing a jersey. Inspired me.

I think my lock weighs 30 pounds. Do we need them on the actual ride? Or do they guard our bikes for us?

I'm tired, sunburned, and grinning. I had a blast today.

SilverFox · Senior Member

You don't need locks on the actual ride. Last year there were guarded compounds in Toronto ( you could drop the bike off the night before) and at Mohawk. Each bike is supposed to have a card attached that has the rider name and number. The rider has a matching wrist band and these are checked to ensure they match when exiting the compound.

You won't need to carry much on the ride, other than a saddle bag with tools, repair kit, water, a little bit of food and other essentials.

tstrawbridge · Veteran Member

I finally started actually training for the 200 mile ride. I rode from Toronto to Bowmanville (my dad lives here). 74km in 2 hours, 48 minutes. Sunburned to hell but it was good. I managed to knock 3 hours of my previous time, thanks to my new Trek Madone 4.5!

SMOKE14 · Senior Member

Totally agree,

Could of come up the mountain and headed out towards Paris & back.

Dave

OFlaherty · Senior Member

Hi, and thanks everyone for the advice.
First, I figure I'll be faster on paved road than the trail. I have been in the past.
Second, thank God on the lock.

I AM trying to find someone willing to put me up for the night in Toronto, but it's hard. I've been looking for months. Now it's hope I can talk someone into riding me and the bike in at some horrible early hour. I don't know anyone in Toronto, but I'm working on it.

If I have to show up Saturday, estimate on how soon to arrive so I know what to tell my victim...er, driver?

SilverFox · Senior Member

If you meet the $2500 minimum by the end of May (approx) you can do the final registration on-line and everything gets mailed out to you. Saturday morning you just need to show up with your bike, put your overnight bag on a truck and get in line. How early you get there really depends on how near the front you want to be.

If you can't register online you will need to show up earlier to do the final registration and possibly tent assignment. 2 separate lines, but neither looked too extreme last year. If you're there by 7am, you should be OK.

OFlaherty · Senior Member

Okay. I should have the $2,500 by then. There's a fundraiser in town May 19th and earlier that month a musician friend in Austin is having on her birthday bash invites, "In lieu of gift, ____ would like to you donate to her friend Chase Cameron's Ride at this address..." So I hope to register/sign in online.

Next year? I will do things differently. This being the first ride, I have learned from mistakes.
Thanks. Worst case, I'm in line at 7 that morning.

rlamoca · Newbie

Hey - glad to see you made it. I was the guy that joined you for a bit on the rail trail.

Wow - 45 km on trail - you must have gone to Brantford. I jump on to the road at Hwy 52 and then start toward Copetown and then Peters Corner and then Hwy 5 and towards Millgrove etc, etc. I did about 50 km that day - felt great.

Keep up the good work for you and your brother.

OFlaherty · Senior Member

45 km is jerseyville and back. Yesterday I did Brantford and back, on trail, so it's longer, harder.

Hey, you really lifted my spirits, my friend. I was wondering how I'd do this. You quit smoking and started riding. Way to go!

Yeah, now working on getting donated, even used donated, ride clothes, shoes, etc. Came home yesterday to a $250 donation and grinned. I was out from 11 to 7. The wind had me stopping to use the inhaler. I'll get stronger.

I'm nervous about the road alone. I figure this. If I can do 50-100 km rides on the trail, the road will be a welcome change. smooth road will be like a slice of heaven. I don't really know other riders, I slow them down on my mtb, so I just chug it out.

Yesterday I learned an aunt has lymphoma. More determined to ride because every couple of weeks I hear about someone else having cancer.

Good riding!

Steve · Member

How aggressive are your tires on your bike and what pressure do you run them at?
Have you thought of different tires for the ride to decrease the rolling resistance?
I rode my "TANK" of a mtn bike the other day a Kona Stinky with 2.5 tires is a big difference than my Trek 2.3 road bike. I will maybe get together with you for a ride on the trail if you want but 45 kms is alot on my mountain bike....

Steve
www.RideforCancer.ca

Steve · Member

Tires like these would be good for the ride...
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302693841&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441772523&bmUID=1270612707982

or these:
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441774263&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302693841&bmUID=1270614890746

OFlaherty · Senior Member

Those look great, but i don't even have enough left to grocery shop after another week. I can't get them. May, I have to replace my contacts. Buying the bike, the rack, printing cards at the shop, etc, on a pension, just destroyed me financially.
That isn't a complaint. I just never anticipated it would cost so much to raise money, then try to gear up. I'll be far more prepared for the 2011 ride.
Really. Lessons learned. LOL.

I'd hoped to have clippless pedals and mtb shoes etc by now, shorts and clothing, gear, etc, but I can make do. I will make do.

I will get the tires eventually and the other stuff. I'm down to ads on Kijiji and stuff hoping for items.

Tires are 26 by 2.1, different than on the bike I had to replace, same model. Better actually, less clunk. I've had the lady at the bike store tell me I need thinner tires. I said if she isn't giving them to me, it ain't happening. I have been riding on the Kendra tires, I just lock the suspension when I get on flat terrain. I know I can go pretty well on paved surfaces. If nothing else, the trail is hell enough that regular road is a dream after.

at least I'm closer to the minimum goal for the ride. It'll be met, and that's a huge relief.
And the riding is getting easier. smile

Cyclogeek · Newbie

You should look for local bicycle shops that are supporting the ride. Ask them to comp you a set of slicks for you mtn bike or at least discount them considerably. Tires will make a huge difference to your ride.

OFlaherty · Senior Member

I'll call around. Maybe ask my shop. The owner's fairly decent. Her employee keeps saying "You charged him too little."
"No, that's what I want to charge him."
"but.."
And i shake my head. It's HER name on the store.

I'll check on it.
Took a fall today. I was admittedly studying a female riding ahead and lost focus.

She rode back and helped me up and straightened my bars. Now my front disc break creaks. It's working so i think it's just going to annoy me. I don't know what hurts more, the gashes or the pulled leg hair!

Found a ride to TORONTO on Ride morning!!!

adiamond · Senior Member

As I recall lunch was at about 70 kms. I assumed we would all ride the first part together and then split after the lunch stop to reduce overhead. In fact I assumed that we would do 30 k out to only one rest stop and 32 back to the next on the regular route so that the extra work for the organizers would be only rest stop.

I also figure that most who are doing the imperial century (and i am told it is 20% of the total or approximatly or about 700) are mostly experienced riders who need less support. If you can water and fuel at 70 kms the 60 k loop would not really require any stops as it is two plus hours meaning two bottles of water and a couple of snacks which we can easily carry.

Day two looks like it has even less overlap and that is where I would have thought that a fair number of the 700 milers might have a change of hart which will result in wastage.

Also I am not sure I want to carry a flag for 200 miles. It is hard enough without the the extra windage.

GiddyUp · Member

SilverFox wrote:

I've followed the dizzying flyovers for the and copied on to Google maps.
M200
K200

The K200 is very similar to last year (if not identical).

I know these routes aren't final, but I was curious to see where the M200 would go relative to the K200.

Curiously, the routes through Mississauga are not identical, diverging at Cawthra and Queensway and then rejoining briefly on Creditview. I would expect a lot more commonality in the urban areas.

Thanks Silverfox for mapping these out. I am really surprised at the routes through Mississauga. It's interesting that they split us and bring us back together and split again. Seems like there is lots of room for people to get confused.
Like others have said, I thought it would have made the most sense to add an out and back in Hamilton. They would have less road closures. less rest stations etc.
Oh well, I'm looking forward to some different roads this year.

GiddyUp · Member

adiamond wrote:

Also I am not sure I want to carry a flag for 200 miles. It is hard enough without the the extra windage.

I love seeing the flags. I feel this crazy urge to talk to everyone who has one. Please keep it. Oh...and there isn't going to be any wind on that weekend right?

OFlaherty · Senior Member

I figure I'll be plodding along. Training alone hasn't exactly sped me up. The flag won't make that much difference. Thank God it's not a huge flag. Entering in a few days into 3 weeks of solid killer workout rides to prepare.

Do you really all think the flag will slow us down that much? I never really thought about it.

adiamond · Senior Member

Only wind at our backs smile

. I was out last week on one of those very windy days and I would have thought that any flag would be a drag. My shirt which was not skiin tight was causing drag.

I assume the reason the split is early rather than late is to "encourage" everyone who has signed on for the 100 m to do it. If the split was late in the day (say at Hamilton) there might be a higher percentage of people who elect to "only" do the 100k instead of the 100 miles which would result in waste at the rest stations on the extra loop.

However, as I have said I think most doing the 100 m could be self supporting for the extra 60 k.

OFlaherty · Senior Member

Any time I've thought of switching, when there was still space on the 200km, someone would say, "But you promised your brother 200 MILES. ON HIS DEATHBED..."
Ouch.
I've been told that the shorter route is hillier and we'll see. My goal is not to finish DFL. Second to last would be awful. I'm kinda hoping for a few trailing behind as I'd like to NOT be all alone the entire 200 miles. Training alone is bad enough.

June is pretty windy. we'll all be okay.